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View P8 Election Results as They Happen!

52.5% and counting…

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Yes on Prop 8 Leading the Way

As the measure, the most divisive and emotionally fraught on the state ballot this year, took a lead in early returns, supporters gathered at a hotel ballroom in Sacramento and cheered.

“I think the voters were thinking, well, if it makes them happy, why shouldn’t we let gay couples get married? And I think we made them realize that there are broader implications to society and particularly the children when you make that fundamental change that’s at the core of how society is organized, which is marriage,” he said.   But in San Francisco at the packed headquarters of the No on 8 campaign party in the Westin St. Francis Hotel, supporters of same-sex marriage refused to despair, saying that they were holding out hope for victory.

“You decided to live your life out loud. You fell in love and you said ‘I do.’ Tonight, we await a verdict,” San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom said, speaking to a roaring crowd. “I’m crossing my fingers.”

Elsewhere in the country, two other gay marriage bans, in Florida and Arizona, were well ahead. In both states, laws already defined marriage as a heterosexual institution. But backers pushed to amend the state constitutions, saying that doing so would protect the institution from legal challenges.

Proposition 8 was the most expensive proposition on any ballot in the nation this year, with more than $74 million spent by both sides.

The measure’s most fervent proponents believed that nothing less than the future of traditional families was at stake, while opponents believed that they were fighting for the fundamental right of gay people to be treated equally under the law.

“This has been a moral battle,” said Ellen Smedley, 34, a member of the Mormon Church and a mother of five who worked on the campaign. “We aren’t trying to change anything that homosexual couples believe or want — it doesn’t change anything that they’re allowed to do already. It’s defining marriage. . . . Marriage is a man and a woman establishing a family unit.”

The battle was closely watched across the nation because California is considered a harbinger of cultural change and because this is the first time voters have weighed in on gay marriage in a state where it was legal.

Campaign contributions came from every state in the nation in opposition to the measure and every state but Vermont to its supporters, and as far away as Washington, D.C., gay rights organizations hosted gatherings Tuesday night to watch voting results on Proposition 8.

Eight years ago, Californians voted 61% to define marriage as being only between a man and a woman.

The California Supreme Court overturned that measure, Proposition 22, in its May 15 decision legalizing same-sex marriage on the grounds that the state Constitution required equal treatment of gay and lesbian couples.

“We caused Californians to rethink this issue,” Proposition 8 strategist Jeff Flint said.

Early in the campaign, he noted, polls showed the measure trailing by 17 points.

But supporters and opponents also did battle on street corners and front lawns, from the pulpits of churches and synagogues and — unusual for a fight over a social issue — in the boardrooms of many of the state’s largest corporations.

Most of the state’s highest-profile political leaders — including both U.S. senators and the mayors of San Francisco, San Diego and Los Angeles — along with the editorial pages of most major newspapers, opposed the measure. PG&E, Apple and other companies contributed money to fight the proposition, and the heads of Silicon Valley companies including Google and Yahoo took out a newspaper ad opposing it.

On the other side were an array of conservative organizations, including the Knights of Columbus, Focus on the Family and the American Family Assn., along with tens of thousands of small donors, including many who responded to urging from Mormon, Catholic and evangelical clergy.

An early October filing by the “yes” campaign reported so many contributions that the secretary of state’s campaign finance website crashed.

Proponents also organized a massive grass-roots effort. Campaign officials said they distributed more than 1.1 million lawn signs for Proposition 8 — although an effort to stage a massive, simultaneous lawn-sign planting in late September failed after a production glitch in China delayed the arrival of hundreds of thousands of signs.

Research and polling showed that many voters were against gay marriage, but afraid that saying so would make them seem “discriminatory” or “not cool,” said Flint, so proponents hoped to show them they were not alone.

Perhaps more powerfully, the Proposition 8 campaign also seized on the issue of education, arguing in a series of advertisements and mailers that children would be subjected to a pro-gay curriculum if the measure was not approved.

“Mom, guess what I learned in school today?” a little girl said in one spot. “I learned how a prince married a prince.”

As the girl’s mother made a horrified face, a voice-over said: “Think it can’t happen? It’s already happened. . . . Teaching about gay marriage will happen unless we pass Proposition 8.”

Many voters said they had been swayed by that message.

“We thought it would go this way,” Proposition 8 co-chair Frank Schubert said. “We had 100,000 people on the streets today. We had people in every precinct, if not knocking on doors, then phoning voters in every precinct. We canvassed the entire state of California, one on one, asking people face to face how do they feel about this issue.

“And this is the kind of issue people are very personal and private about, and they don’t like talking to pollsters, they don’t like talking to the media, but we had a pretty good idea how they felt and that’s being reflected in the vote count.”

Snippets from the L.A. Times….read the entire article here:

Dirty Tricks–Mormon Missionary Ad

No on 8 Attack Ad Distorts and Exploits Mormon Missionaries’ Image for Political Gain

Please write to MSNBC and CNN to let them know you do not approve that they
are planning on airing an anti-Mormon ad that features two men dressed like
missionaries and claiming to be from The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints ransacking a lesbian couple’s home and ripping up their
marriage license.  These two networks are planning on airing this commercial
by the organization Courage Campaign on Tuesday, Nov.4th, Election Day, in
the morning.

Follow this link to send a quick e-mail to CNN:
CNN: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?39

Use this e-mail address to send a letter to MSNBC:
letters@msnbc.com (in the subject line put “To the editor)

Thank you for speaking out against intolerance and hatred.

Update:

The Los Angeles Times reports that despite the outrage, the ad, produced by an independent group not affiliated with the official No-on-8 campaign, was shown on MSNBC and Comedy Central, according to Rick Jacobs of the Courage Campaign, a gay  political group.

Hooray for the Baptists!

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And Now….The Rest of the Story

Yesterday I reported on some extreme behavior by our Conejo Valley Unified School District Administrators, when they destroyed one resident’s proposition 8 sign that they felt was too close to school property. (see thread here for part I)

Well, here’s how it turned out yesterday.  After the Administration thugs were through stomping the sign into the ground, they hurled it over the fence of the people who put it up, and it stayed there most of the day.

Our friend Tim Cooley heard about what had happened to the sign and saw the police and everything–well, he got to work with some of his contacts to find a new home for the sign.  He called up Pastor Wilson of the First Baptist Church here in town and they chatted about the sign dilemma.  Pastor Wilson and his congregation have been collaborating with all the churches in the area on proposition 8 and were thrilled and honored to be the custodians of the big sign.  They provided a space for it immediately.  They’d already lost four large signs to the opposition’s thieves and vandals, and currently didn’t have a Yes on 8 sign.

The interesting thing is that Baptists are extremely wary of Mormons.  They don’t traditionally get along.  Tim Cooley was the Bishop of the local LDS (Mormon) congregation a few years ago, so he and Pastor Wilson had some interactions over the years, that could have been better.   So even though the builders of the sign were Mormon,  Tim Cooley is Mormon, and Pastor Wilson is a Baptist, today it didn’t matter.

Tim, Daryl and some other guys got the sign out, fixed it up, replaced the smashed bulbs and wiring, got it all ready to go and installed it right in front of the Baptist Church which stands on a hillside overlooking Erbes and La Granada.  While they were putting the big sign together, they had more conversations with the Baptists and were able to clear up some of the misconceptions that were out there.  Funny that for being so geographically close, the two churches knew so little about each other.  They found quite a bit of common ground.

Pastor Wilson and Assistant Pastor Dean actually invited Tim to their special prayer meeting tonight and invited him to pray and speak a bit about prop 8 and the efforts being made.  Tim said it was a unique and wonderful experience, that they opened their place of worship and invited him in with open arms, with AMEN!  and Yeah Brother!

All the while they were praying and meeting, outside you could hear the raucous noise of cheering and honking horns as cars streamed past the giant sign.  Yes on 8!!

The thing that is wonderful to me is the strength of this collaboration between the churches of California.  Here we are, finding out who our friends really are, and who our enemies really are.  This is our common ground, standing up for each other, and supporting each other against the opposition.  What a blessing it is to stand with our Christian brothers and sisters, in all their denominational flavors. This proposition is so important to all of us.  What a blessing it has been to finally find that common ground in such a great cause that can bring such polar opposites together.  The Lord works in mysterious ways…..

Hooray for the Baptists!  and thanks to Tim Cooley for “the rest of the story.”

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Tim Cooley (left) and members of the First Baptist Church "Yes on 8 Coalition" working together to protect the family Nov. 2008