L.A. Times Promotes Gay Vigilantism

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Aiding and Abetting Gay Activist Vigilantes

The activist gay message to California voters is don’t donate, don’t vote, or we’ll come after you.

The L.A. Times website has put online a searchable directory of Proposition 8 donors that is being used to target and intimidate voters.  This search tool is providing names of good people to gay rights activists all over the state.  Not only does this index provide your personal name, city and zip code, but it also includes your employer and position.  The L.A. Times is providing information on any donor, even donors of petty pocket change.

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Just this week, lists like this were used by gay activists to target a man in Sacramento who gave money to the marriage campaign out of his own private funds.  Scott Eckern lost his job at Music Circus because of the threats and intimidation used against the business he’d been with for the last 25 years.

Another victim, Margorie Christoffersen, a manager of Coyote Mexican Cafe in L.A. was harassed and intimidated over her $100 donation to the marriage initiative.  Coyote was pressured into giving 10,000.00 to pro gay causes in order to avoid a boycott, that is threatening to continue.

These databases are public information, but given how they are currently being used, to thwart, stifle and intimidate voters and donors, the L.A. Times should pull down their directory to prevent it from being used to target fellow Californians.

Having an opinion is not against the law.  Donating to a cause is not against the law. Punishing neighbors, friends and businesses for their participation in the electoral process is unconscionable.

–In Los Angeles, the Times lost more than 40,000 daily copies. Daily circulation there was down 5.1% to 773,884. Sunday declined 6.0% to 1,101,981.  Let them know how you feel.  Perhaps they’ll listen.

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13 Comments

  1. Lili said,

    November 13, 2008 at 9:21 pm

    Dear LA Times,

  2. Will said,

    November 13, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    Is there really no better way for gay marriage advocates to achieve what they want? Perhaps that is how they feel. In order for democracy to work, as we see from even our nation’s founding, there often have to be serious concessions from people on both sides of controversial issues.

    The LDS church has officially stated they do not oppose domestic partnerships or civil unions, so they are willing to allow gays to obtain legal rights through these relationships. Of course, many say that these don’t have nearly the same scope that marriage does, but can’t they be expanded until they are satisfied?

    My real point is that gays may need to concede to obtaining rights through alternatives to marriage as opponents concede to allow them these rights.

  3. Heather said,

    November 13, 2008 at 11:22 pm

    It makes me so sad to see all of the animosity and anger towards fellow Americans. But we have to continue to stand up for what we believe to be true, otherwise the opposition will win and our fight will have been in vain. We have to stick together and support each other… and most importantly, stay the high road.

  4. beetlebabee said,

    November 14, 2008 at 12:13 am

    You are right there Heather. I have been struggling today let me tell you. The high road looks awfully high when you’re looking at little ladies being bullied. There’s something of a she-bear inside all of us. Your comment is a good thing to keep in mind. I had to put the keyboard down and count to ten…..slowly. It actually took me two hours to get back from the store, and I feel much better. sigh*

  5. November 14, 2008 at 1:16 am

    The pressure towards the Coyote Mexican Cafe is most frustrating to me. From what I understand, the woman who donated the money to the Yes on 8 campaign was only the daughter of the owner, and she only gave $100. So, the restaurant has to bribe the protesters with $10,000 to leave them alone? Are we in the Wild West, or do we live in a civilized 21st century society?

  6. November 14, 2008 at 1:24 am

    Where do you find the time to get out so many posts every day? Wow, I sure know where to come for recent Prop 8 news! Did you get my email?

  7. beetlebabee said,

    November 14, 2008 at 3:13 am

    No I think I missed it. At a certain point, people just start to get used to the idea that I’m interested in prop 8 and related stuff, and they just send it to me. It’s kind of cool, but then it is 1:13 in the morning and I just finished the last post……

  8. debbie said,

    November 15, 2008 at 12:39 am

    How is this even right, ethically, morally, pick an -ally? Is the LA Times going to list the folks who donated $ to the No on Prop8? Does anyone see how wrong this is? My head is hurts from hitting it on a brick wall.

    Is there anything we can do, besides writing letters? I tried screaming, but my children looked at me funny, and it only felt good for a minute.

  9. beetlebabee said,

    November 15, 2008 at 1:01 am

    The original reason for the list being made public was for campaign finance laws, they wanted the public to know who was supporting what. The emphasis was on the big donors, not the little guys.

    These guys have taken mob action to the next generation. I’m not sure what to do about it besides endure it and tell all the people you know what is happening here. I’m open to ideas. I have spread this story and others like it as far and wide as I can. Everyone needs to know what is happening here, because you know what? The media isn’t.

    The aim of these groups is to intimidate us into silence, and if we let them, next time there’s an issue that needs funding, people with businesses or interests will clam up and be afraid to support the cause for fear of reprisals.

    Did you hear about the Marriott Hotel chain? They’re going through this now. They didn’t give a DIME, but they’re still being targeted for boycotts just for fun because they’re LDS. They want us so scared to even be involved that we’ll separate ourselves from our places of worship and our faith.

  10. beetlebabee said,

    November 15, 2008 at 1:07 am

    http://beetlebabee.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/trampled_by_tolerance/

    First we heard about Scott Eckern….gave $1000 to proposition 8….was boycotted, lost his job of 25 years.

    Then we heard about Marjorie Christoffersen of El Coyote Mexican Restaurant in L.A…….she gave $100 of her personal money to proposition 8…..her business was boycotted because she wouldn’t renounce her Mormon faith.

    Now today we hear about the Marriott Hotel Chain. Rumors abounded today that the Marriott chain of hotels had possibly given money to proposition 8. In the face of an impending boycott, Mr. Marriott released this statement:

    As many of you may know I’m a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Some might conclude given my family’s membership in the Mormon Church that our company supported the recent ballot initiative to ban same sex marriage in California. This is simply untrue. Marriott International is a public company headquartered in Bethesda, Maryland, and is not controlled by any one individual or family. Neither I, nor the company, contributed to the campaign to pass Proposition 8.

    AND…..do you think they were satisfied? No. They’re boycotting him anyway! Not because he donated, no, but because he’s Mormon. See the ful text of the statement and the reaction here:

    http://www.blogs.marriott.com/default.asp?item=2284808

    now while this story about the Mariott Hotel chain is getting absolutely no press, I find it interesting that we’ve gone from a thousand dollar infraction, to a hundred dollar infraction to a zero dollar infraction and the reality seems to be, they’re being boycotted because they’re Mormons. Nothing more. There’s nothing these people could do to appease short of renounce their faith.

    Tolerate? no, that’s not the issue. Condoning is the issue.

  11. amy said,

    November 15, 2008 at 3:20 am

    Wow, I can’t believe this is going on. This is an outright scandal. It’s unfortunate and childish, that a small group of people feel they need to punish others for standing up for their beliefs. If prop 8 had failed, you would not be seeing these things going on by yes on 8 supporters. Some people need to grow up and act like adults.

    Seriously though, is anyone really surprised? We all know where this is heading. The true colors are showing.

  12. beetlebabee said,

    November 15, 2008 at 3:27 am

    Hopefully it’ll settle down soon.

  13. Carl said,

    November 15, 2008 at 11:06 am

    California Crusader are you for real? You stated “Do we live in a civilized 21st century society” How can you expect a 21st century society when the people behaved as we’re in the inquisition? (Hunting gays and targeting gays and lesbians for your own gain).
    Whatever you feel about gay and lesbians, one thing you must keep in mind; We did not choose to be this way, is a hard feeling. To be bullied when you are little, to be targeted as you grow up, to be rejected by your family and yet none of that is important because you have not experienced it. Millions of youth, people have to endure this personal battle on their own. How many of you parents of gays and lesbians have to endure haveing a child that is gay or lesbian? This is about your love ones, people that wants the same protections under the law, nothing less. We pay taxes and have and continue to endure rejections. If we want to call the 21st century an era of understanding and acceptance then perhaps we should behave as such. How many times we seen that people that are against gays and lesbians, is because they hated that they could not be happy that way and have to settled with a man or a woman that they do not love, but because their family’s strong religious affiliations they have to settled for something they don’t want and seek out in public places for sexual gratiffication. If you want to stop this you must allow and try to understand that people are born this way, is not a choice. No one chooses to be excluded of what the majority is doing, but that exclusion will only continue until we come to a compromise with those that in our believe do not conformm to the religious norm. God created all of us, isn’t that what we believe? I do.


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