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		<title>By: beetlebabee</title>
		<link>http://beetlebabee.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/leatherbys-boycott-melts/#comment-3548</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary, thanks for the wonderful commentary on the Leatherby family.  I enjoyed their place very much when I was in Sacramento last.  They have great people there.  When we told them we were up from L.A. just to see their famous place after the boycotts, the woman at the register ran me off a copy of an article that had been written on their story.  It was a pleasure to be there in support of such good people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, thanks for the wonderful commentary on the Leatherby family.  I enjoyed their place very much when I was in Sacramento last.  They have great people there.  When we told them we were up from L.A. just to see their famous place after the boycotts, the woman at the register ran me off a copy of an article that had been written on their story.  It was a pleasure to be there in support of such good people.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leatherby&#039;s comments speak for themselves!!!!

Speaking with CNA on Wednesday, Leatherby explained his support for Proposition 8, saying he disagreed with characterizations of same-sex marriage as a civil rights issue.

“I have men’s and women’s restrooms in my establishment. Is that discrimination? No. Why? Because men and women are different!

“They’re equal in dignity but they’re different. A relationship between a man and a woman is different than a man and a man or a woman and a woman, hands down,” especially when children are considered.

“Most of them associate me and my family with hateful, spiteful people that would drag homosexuals out into the street and beat them up.

“It’s amazing. Because of the lies that are told about this, about how supporters are hateful, so many people have bought into that!”

“A majority of Californians are not hateful people. It’s a lie to say that.

“They don’t hate gay people, they support marriage.

“You can’t hold those beliefs any longer unless you’re considered hateful?” Leatherby asked.

“Is Mother Teresa a hateful person? She has the same beliefs I do.

“One of the first houses she opened in San Francisco was an AIDS house for gay men. Some of the first people she reached out to were gay men,” Leatherby noted.

Not all the interactions with critics have been negative.

Leatherby recounted his meeting with a 70-year-old man who was critical of his support for Proposition 8.

“After talking with him, I said I used to work at a certain house for gay men dying of AIDS.

“He broke down in tears and said, ‘one of my partners died there’.”

Leatherby offered to buy him lunch, where he learned that the man had grown up in a Catholic orphanage.

“The man said ‘the Catholic church had done more for me than anyone else in my life.’

“He said he had been abused before he entered the orphanage, and said he wouldn’t have been gay if he had had a strong man in his life.”

He recounted how one man had told a television station he had voted for Proposition 8 after noticing the difference between the two sides and the different examples of their advocates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leatherby&#8217;s comments speak for themselves!!!!</p>
<p>Speaking with CNA on Wednesday, Leatherby explained his support for Proposition 8, saying he disagreed with characterizations of same-sex marriage as a civil rights issue.</p>
<p>“I have men’s and women’s restrooms in my establishment. Is that discrimination? No. Why? Because men and women are different!</p>
<p>“They’re equal in dignity but they’re different. A relationship between a man and a woman is different than a man and a man or a woman and a woman, hands down,” especially when children are considered.</p>
<p>“Most of them associate me and my family with hateful, spiteful people that would drag homosexuals out into the street and beat them up.</p>
<p>“It’s amazing. Because of the lies that are told about this, about how supporters are hateful, so many people have bought into that!”</p>
<p>“A majority of Californians are not hateful people. It’s a lie to say that.</p>
<p>“They don’t hate gay people, they support marriage.</p>
<p>“You can’t hold those beliefs any longer unless you’re considered hateful?” Leatherby asked.</p>
<p>“Is Mother Teresa a hateful person? She has the same beliefs I do.</p>
<p>“One of the first houses she opened in San Francisco was an AIDS house for gay men. Some of the first people she reached out to were gay men,” Leatherby noted.</p>
<p>Not all the interactions with critics have been negative.</p>
<p>Leatherby recounted his meeting with a 70-year-old man who was critical of his support for Proposition 8.</p>
<p>“After talking with him, I said I used to work at a certain house for gay men dying of AIDS.</p>
<p>“He broke down in tears and said, ‘one of my partners died there’.”</p>
<p>Leatherby offered to buy him lunch, where he learned that the man had grown up in a Catholic orphanage.</p>
<p>“The man said ‘the Catholic church had done more for me than anyone else in my life.’</p>
<p>“He said he had been abused before he entered the orphanage, and said he wouldn’t have been gay if he had had a strong man in his life.”</p>
<p>He recounted how one man had told a television station he had voted for Proposition 8 after noticing the difference between the two sides and the different examples of their advocates.</p>
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		<title>By: { Everyone Loves Ice Cream&#8230; } &#171; { The Journalista Chronicle } In defense of traditional marriage, children, morality, conservative values and politics, and a healty society…</title>
		<link>http://beetlebabee.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/leatherbys-boycott-melts/#comment-1560</link>
		<dc:creator>{ Everyone Loves Ice Cream&#8230; } &#171; { The Journalista Chronicle } In defense of traditional marriage, children, morality, conservative values and politics, and a healty society…</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leslieh S.</title>
		<link>http://beetlebabee.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/leatherbys-boycott-melts/#comment-1559</link>
		<dc:creator>Leslieh S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently went to Leatherby&#039;s with my family, the place was not only packed, but there were people milling all around in the parkinglot and sidewalk.  I&#039;d never been there before, but after what happened with the boycott, I had to go.  The waitresses and atmosphere were so friendly and the ice cream was great!  

Those who would march around with angry signs in front of a good business like this ought to have their heads examined.  I&#039;m glad to see it hasn&#039;t hurt them.

--Leslieh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently went to Leatherby&#8217;s with my family, the place was not only packed, but there were people milling all around in the parkinglot and sidewalk.  I&#8217;d never been there before, but after what happened with the boycott, I had to go.  The waitresses and atmosphere were so friendly and the ice cream was great!  </p>
<p>Those who would march around with angry signs in front of a good business like this ought to have their heads examined.  I&#8217;m glad to see it hasn&#8217;t hurt them.</p>
<p>&#8211;Leslieh</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t go to Leatherby&#039;s anymore. I won&#039;t spend gay$ to be used against me. Whether it hurts their business or not is irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t go to Leatherby&#8217;s anymore. I won&#8217;t spend gay$ to be used against me. Whether it hurts their business or not is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: tami</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am still looking for this &quot;humiliating defeat&quot;.  It seems that those protesting did what they came to do. Those people who were pouring into the shop clearly aren&#039;t concerned or they support the stance that Leatherby&#039;s took on prop.8.

If people think it&#039;s okay to vote against equal rights for others, then that speaks volumes for who they are.  

I could be wrong, but that $20K could have been put to use for much more urgent and important causes, say feeding the poor, helping homeless children find a home, funding programs to help struggling families survive...just to name a few.

When I do visit Sacramento Leatherby&#039;s will not be one of the places I spend my out of town dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still looking for this &#8220;humiliating defeat&#8221;.  It seems that those protesting did what they came to do. Those people who were pouring into the shop clearly aren&#8217;t concerned or they support the stance that Leatherby&#8217;s took on prop.8.</p>
<p>If people think it&#8217;s okay to vote against equal rights for others, then that speaks volumes for who they are.  </p>
<p>I could be wrong, but that $20K could have been put to use for much more urgent and important causes, say feeding the poor, helping homeless children find a home, funding programs to help struggling families survive&#8230;just to name a few.</p>
<p>When I do visit Sacramento Leatherby&#8217;s will not be one of the places I spend my out of town dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Voice of Our Actions &#171; Beetle Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voice of Our Actions &#171; Beetle Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let the voice of our actions, votes and dollars follow values for informed consumerism.  There are many who have stuck their necks out in support of marriage and who risk suffering for it.  Beyond just a one time action, speaking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Let the voice of our actions, votes and dollars follow values for informed consumerism.  There are many who have stuck their necks out in support of marriage and who risk suffering for it.  Beyond just a one time action, speaking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Darin W</title>
		<link>http://beetlebabee.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/leatherbys-boycott-melts/#comment-1478</link>
		<dc:creator>Darin W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for El Coyote in LA, the &quot;anti boycott&quot; -- if anything significant -- simply is not going to be able to keep it up.   They are located smack dab in the middle of gay/hipster/liberal hollywood and after a few weeks people from outside the area will forget about this.  Not the locals.  Without saying that I support this, I predict they will go out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for El Coyote in LA, the &#8220;anti boycott&#8221; &#8212; if anything significant &#8212; simply is not going to be able to keep it up.   They are located smack dab in the middle of gay/hipster/liberal hollywood and after a few weeks people from outside the area will forget about this.  Not the locals.  Without saying that I support this, I predict they will go out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: beetlebabee</title>
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		<dc:creator>beetlebabee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A thank you from Marie Leatherby &amp; her family...
Dear Friends,
There are no words to explain the feeling of gratitude that my family is feeling right now.  The amount of support for us has been so enormous that we are reeling from it all.  The restaurant has been packed with wonderful people and I myself have received hundreds of supporting e-mails and phone calls, as I&#039;m sure the rest of my family has also.  We will try to answer them individually, but if we miss anyone, forgive us.  We are so overwhelmed with joy that we don&#039;t know whether to laugh or cry.  All we can say is thank-you, thank-you, thank-you.  I think my brother Alan said it best as he was watching the lines forming outside of the restaurant yesterday.  &quot;Now I know how George Bailey must have felt in &#039;It&#039;s a Wonderful Life.&#039; &quot;    God is so good.
Yours in Christ,
Marie Leatherby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thank you from Marie Leatherby &amp; her family&#8230;<br />
Dear Friends,<br />
There are no words to explain the feeling of gratitude that my family is feeling right now.  The amount of support for us has been so enormous that we are reeling from it all.  The restaurant has been packed with wonderful people and I myself have received hundreds of supporting e-mails and phone calls, as I&#8217;m sure the rest of my family has also.  We will try to answer them individually, but if we miss anyone, forgive us.  We are so overwhelmed with joy that we don&#8217;t know whether to laugh or cry.  All we can say is thank-you, thank-you, thank-you.  I think my brother Alan said it best as he was watching the lines forming outside of the restaurant yesterday.  &#8220;Now I know how George Bailey must have felt in &#8216;It&#8217;s a Wonderful Life.&#8217; &#8221;    God is so good.<br />
Yours in Christ,<br />
Marie Leatherby</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Dibble</title>
		<link>http://beetlebabee.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/leatherbys-boycott-melts/#comment-1464</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Dibble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, my family of 8 lives right down the road from a Leatherbys (the one on Arden is not the only Leatherbys location in town!).  We&#039;ve frequented there a few times, but will not be returning again.

My kids enjoy ice cream, and while overpriced, Leatherby&#039;s ice cream was a nice treat.  This family, however, will be avoiding Leatherby&#039;s LONG after the roadtrips from Simi Valley slow down.

The &quot;anti-blacklist&quot; is great, but those 52% who voted for Prop 8 should remember that just about half the state voted against it.  Feel free to spend your efforts propping up businesses who were &quot;on your side&quot; this time around, but realize that unless you are in for a war of contrition with your ice cream-buying dollars (and gas dollars to travel to Leatherbys), the long term outlook is not good for Leatherbys.

While &quot;anti-blacklists&quot; are effective for a day or two, long-term boycotts over time have a far greater effect.  It&#039;s a lot easier for me to NOT go to Leatherbys than it is for my neighbor to make a special trip there AND spend his money on their (nice but expensive) ice cream.

&quot;Humiliating defeat&quot; ...  quite the overstatement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, my family of 8 lives right down the road from a Leatherbys (the one on Arden is not the only Leatherbys location in town!).  We&#8217;ve frequented there a few times, but will not be returning again.</p>
<p>My kids enjoy ice cream, and while overpriced, Leatherby&#8217;s ice cream was a nice treat.  This family, however, will be avoiding Leatherby&#8217;s LONG after the roadtrips from Simi Valley slow down.</p>
<p>The &#8220;anti-blacklist&#8221; is great, but those 52% who voted for Prop 8 should remember that just about half the state voted against it.  Feel free to spend your efforts propping up businesses who were &#8220;on your side&#8221; this time around, but realize that unless you are in for a war of contrition with your ice cream-buying dollars (and gas dollars to travel to Leatherbys), the long term outlook is not good for Leatherbys.</p>
<p>While &#8220;anti-blacklists&#8221; are effective for a day or two, long-term boycotts over time have a far greater effect.  It&#8217;s a lot easier for me to NOT go to Leatherbys than it is for my neighbor to make a special trip there AND spend his money on their (nice but expensive) ice cream.</p>
<p>&#8220;Humiliating defeat&#8221; &#8230;  quite the overstatement!</p>
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