Homosexual Parenting? A Child’s Voice Heard

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I recently came across the story of  Dawn Stefanowicz, a woman who grew up in a homosexual home in Canada.  Her story is more than just a story, it’s unvarnished insight into a life of experience most of us have only seen the opening lines of.  It is a story that needs to be told because it flies in the face of the golden sunshine tales of normalcy we are often fed in the media by homosexual activists, anxious to paint this lifestyle in shades of vibrant normalcy.

We risk children being exposed to these types of  “family options”, and the damage they cause, as society loosens the mores of familial stability in favor of adult personal gratification.   Here’s a look inside that lifestyle and the children who bear the burdens and pay the price.

—Beetle Blogger

Dawn’s Testimony

My name is Dawn Stefanowicz, I grew up in a homosexual household during the 60s and 70s in Toronto, exposed to many different people in GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, bisexual, Transsexual) subcultures, and explicit sexual practices. I am currently writing a book, soon to be published, on this experience. As well, I was a witness at the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs on Bill C-250 (hate crimes), and I have presented at the local school board.

My biggest concern is that children are not being discussed in this same-sex marriage debate. Yet, won’t the next step for some gay activists be to ask for legal adoption of children if same-sex marriage is legalized? I have considered some of the potential physical and psychological health risks for children raised in this situation. I was at high risk of exposure to contagious STDs due to sexual molestation, my father’s high-risk sexual behaviors, and multiple partners. Even when my father was in what looked like monogamous relationships, he continued cruising for anonymous sex.

I came to deeply care for, love and compassionately understand my dad. He shared his life regrets with me. Unfortunately, my father, as a child, was sexually and physically abused by older males. Due to this, he lived with depression, control issues, anger outbursts, suicidal tendencies, and sexual compulsions. He tried to fulfill his legitimate needs for his father’s affirmation, affection and attention with transient and promiscuous relationships. He and his partners were exposed to various contagious STD’s as they traveled across North America. My father’s (ex)partners, whom I had deep caring feelings for and associated with, had drastically shortened lives due to suicide, contracting HIV or Aids. Sadly, my father died of AIDS in 1991.

Are my childhood experiences unique? According to a growing number of personal testimonies, experts, and organizations, there is mounting evidence of strong commonalities to my personal experiences. Not only do children do best with both a mother and a father in a lifelong marriage bond, children need responsible monogamous parents who have no extramarital sexual partners. Parental promiscuity, abuse and divorce are not good for children. If same-sex marriage is legalized, a person, couple or group who practice any form of sexual behavior would eventually be able to obtain children through previous heterosexual relationships, new reproductive technologies, and adoption due to the undefined term sexual orientation. This would force all public and private adoption agencies to hand over children into experimental relationships or risk charges of discrimination.

What is the most suitable environment for children to be born or adopted into? The many personal, professional and social experiences with my father did not teach me respect for morality, authority, marriage, and paternal love. I felt fearfully silenced as I was not allowed to talk about my dad, his male housemates, his lifestyle and encounters within the subcultures without being browbeaten and threatened by my father. While I lived at home, I had to live by his rules. Yes, I loved my dad. However, I felt abandoned and neglected as my needs were not met since my father would often leave suddenly to be with his partners for days. His partners were not really interested in me. I was outraged at the incidences of same-sex domestic abuse, sexual advances toward minors, and loss of sexual partners as if people were only commodities. I sought comfort looking for my father’s love from boyfriends starting at 12 years old.

From a young age, I was exposed to explicit sexual speech, self-indulgent lifestyles, varied GLBT subcultures and gay vacation spots. Sex looked gratuitous to me as a child. I was exposed to all inclusive manifestations of sexuality including bathhouse sex, cross-dressing, sodomy, pornography, gay nudity, lesbianism, bisexuality, minor recruitment, voyeurism and exhibitionism. Sado-masochism was alluded to and aspects demonstrated. Alcohol and drugs were often contributing factors to lower inhibitions in my father’s relationships.

My father prized unisex dressing, gender-neutral aspects and a famous cross-dressing icon when I was eight years old. I did not see the value of biological complementing differences of male and female or think about marriage. I made vows to never have children since I had not grown up in a safe, sacrificial, child-centered home environment. Due to my life experience, I ask, “Can children really perform their best academically, financially, psychologically, socially and behaviorally in experimental situations?” I can tell you that I suffered long term in this situation, and this has been professionally documented.

Over two decades of direct exposure to these stressful experiences caused me insecurity, depression, suicidal thoughts, dread, anxiousness, low self-esteem, sleeplessness and sexuality confusion. My conscience and innocence were seriously damaged. I witnessed that every other family member suffered severely as well.

It took me until I was into my 20s and 30s, after making major life choices, to begin to realize how being raised in this environment affected me. My healing encompassed facing reality, accepting long-term consequences, and offering forgiveness. Can you imagine being forced to tolerate unstable relationships and diverse sexual practices from a young age and how this affected my development? My gender identity, psychological well-being, and peer relationships were affected. Unfortunately, it was not until my father, his sexual partners and my mother had died, was I free to speak publicly about my experiences.out-from-under-the-impact-of-homosexual-parenting_thumb4

“I believe same-sex marriage will dispose of unique values esteemed within marriage as recognized throughout history. Marriage needs to remain a societal foundation that constitutes, represents, and defends the inherently procreative relationship between the husband and the wife for the welfare of their biological children. Children need consistent appropriate boundaries and secure expressions of emotional intimacy that are not sexualized in the home and community. “

For more information on Dawn and her experiences, see her book: Out From Under, the Impact of Homosexual Parenting

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44 Comments

  1. { Lisa } said,

    January 4, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    This is so awesome! We need more stories like this one to make its way into the open. So that people can start to see homosexuality for what it really is and how it really effects people.

    Thanks BB yoiu rock!

  2. January 4, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    I like your quote down the bottom there. It sums up the issue nicely.

  3. Euripides said,

    January 4, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    Thanks for telling us about Dawn’s story. This one needs to be heard.

  4. Mary Ane said,

    January 4, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    What a nightmare.

  5. Charles H. said,

    January 4, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    The way she describes her father’s behavior is interesting. He sounds very much like an addict.

  6. beetlebabee said,

    January 4, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Charles, I agree. Sexual addiction is a powerful thing. The chemicals that produce that high can’t be avoided as easily as alcohol or heroin, but they’re equally powerful, if not more so than illegal drugs.

    It’s got to be a harrowing life to be constantly seeking after something and never finding it. Never being satisfied.

  7. Millie said,

    January 5, 2009 at 3:37 am

    Absolutely scary. I hate that children have to grow up with this confusion in their lives.

  8. January 5, 2009 at 10:53 am

    Thank you for sharing your story. It needs to be told. I helped a woman in a custody battle whose husband exposed his gay lifestyle right after she gave birth to their baby girl. The legal process lasted almost a year and the woman was constantly told of similar behaviors by her husband’s jilted lovers. He hired prostitutes and drug addicts off the street to babysit so he could go to the gay bars and strip clubs with some guy he just met. Often he didn’t come home for over a day. The babysitters were paid with alcohol or drugs.

    Cries of discrimination, homophobia and paternal rights kept this infant in jeopardy for a couple of years until the father finally ended up in jail for trying to burn down his employer’s tux & formal wear business.

  9. January 5, 2009 at 11:08 am

    […] In a society so engrossed in SELF RIGHTS, isn’t it about time we consider the rights of children who can not or are not allowed to speak? Here is the link: https://beetlebabee.wordpress.com/2009/01/04/homosexual-parenting-a-childs-voice-heard/ […]

  10. Stephanie said,

    January 7, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    It’s heartbreaking to hear these kinds of stories. I also know many heterosexuals folks who have lived a very similar “lifestyle”.

    The nighclubs, strip clubs, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, sexual abuse, sexual promiscuity, etc. Perhaps we need to look at the way we are living our lives and what examples we are setting for our children, regardless of sexual orientation.

  11. Maddog said,

    January 8, 2009 at 4:57 am

    This story shatters the facade of normalcy that gay activists use to cover up the dysfunctional nature of same-sex “families”. This kind of testimony is powerful and deserves wider reading. Forget political correctness. There are lives of children at stake.

  12. Seasons said,

    January 8, 2009 at 7:34 am

    This is a case of poor parenting and not about sexuality.

    Is what she faced really about the fathers sexuality is it just poor parenting? Surely the fact that the father was promiscuous and irresponsible does not mean all gay men are like that.
    Ignoring his sexuality..concentrate a little bit on his urges for sex,alcohol/ drugs use, abandonment etc.. this is common with heterosexuals too.

    I am a straight single father of two girls that I bring up myself and I can tell bad parenting. I have an uncle who is gay and in a monogamous relationship which my entire family knows about. Although they have no children of their own, they are excellent examples of a great loving couple and my kids do spend time in their house.

    I would hesitate to judge people of alternative lifestyle entirely on this story. I would judge bad parents on it though..

  13. beetlebabee said,

    January 8, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    The culture associated with homosexuality is not for children. Any “gay pride” parade demonstrates that clearly, and backs up what this woman has to say about her experiences with gay parenting in general. While certainly her case may not be everyone’s case, it clearly confirms from the inside what is already clearly seen from the outside.

  14. Stephanie said,

    January 8, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Come on now. Really. There isn’t much difference between a Gay Pride vs. Mardi Gras, is there? Heck, I’m thinking Mardi Gras may be worse with folks half naked and drunk most of the time.

    I agree Seasons, This IS a case of poor parenting, not sexuality. That is the huge difference many people choose to ignore.

  15. Liberty Belle said,

    January 10, 2009 at 1:18 am

    Wow, have you seen the pics from the gay pride parades? They really are half naked. Whether it’s Mardi Gras or gay pride, it’s still degenerate. Poor parenting, yes, but the deeper question is why is such a high percentage of the population in homosexual culture hanging out at fringe sexual parties and parades? Is it indicative of a larger problem? You say no, but the studies say there’s a link, and this woman’s life story backs that up.

  16. JillJean said,

    January 11, 2009 at 3:54 am

    If one “degenerate” parade goes unnoticed, should we all participate? Certainly there can be a lot learned on both sides of the sexuality isle.

  17. Stephanie said,

    January 12, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    Liberty Belle-

    “…..but the deeper question is why is such a high percentage of the population in homosexual culture hanging out at fringe sexual parties and parades?”

    Where are you getting this assumption from?

  18. Liberty Belle said,

    January 12, 2009 at 6:06 pm

    Stephanie, the very nature of the only parade that celebrates the gay lifestyle is blatantly pornographic. That speaks volumes. In addition, the studies out there that document the promiscuity of those who actively participate in the gay lifestyle confirms what the images of the “gay pride” parades hint at.

    Sexual promiscuity, particularly random sex with strangers, is high for both sexes of homosexuals, and especially for male homosexuals. The National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS) found that the mean number of lifetime partners since the age of 18 for men who never had same-gender sex was 15.7, but for men who ever had same sex partners it was 44.3, a rate three times as high. For women who never had same-gender sex, the number was 4.9, but for women who ever had same-gender sex, it was 19.7, more than four times as high (Laumann, et al., 1994, Table 8.4, p. 315).

    Some homosexuals condemn these practices, but many, including some gay activist leaders, openly praise them.

    Gay researchers (McWhierter and Mattison, 1984) studied 156
    homosexual male couples that had been together between one and thirty-seven years. They found that one hundred per cent of the couples had infidelity within the first five years. Couples were still together past the ten year mark only if they accepted the painful reality of infidelity in their relationship. The gay researchers said, “In fact, more than 85 percent of the couples report that their greatest relationship problems center on outside relationships, sexual and nonsexual” (p. 256). Some couples arrive at agreements or rules for outside sexual relationships with “anguish, pain, hurt, and heartache” (p. 258). Further, they said, “Our observations lead us to think that these rules are attempts at control in an area that continues to be an elusive source of anxiety and fear for most couples. They feel that the sexual monster inside of each of us needs bridling. We do not trust it in our partners, and least of all in ourselves” (p. 259).

  19. January 12, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Poor parenting can occur between a couple of any sexual orientation. As Liberty Belle pointed out, homosexual couples have a higher rate of promiscuous sex. This would impact negatively on the raising of children. I think this is why the author wrote the book.

  20. beetlebabee said,

    January 12, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    There are two basic problems with homosexuality as it pertains to parenting, one is that gender matters and homosexual parents by definition exclude one gender from the parenting mix. The other finding is the influence their homosexuality has on children, and the higher incidences of sexual confusion in children of homosexual parents.

    21 Reasons Why Gender Matters

  21. goldnsilver said,

    January 13, 2009 at 12:19 am

    I agree with Stephanie on this one – this is a case of bad parenting, regardless of sexuality. I’m very sad to hear what this person went through.

    This is so awesome! We need more stories like this one to make its way into the open. So that people can start to see homosexuality for what it really is and how it really effects people.

    Are you on crack? This poor woman lived a neglected horrible life and your pleased because it back’s up your theories?

  22. January 13, 2009 at 1:07 am

    I’m pleased that she came out and told her story. It was very brave of her. It is also a warning to society as to the possible consequences of allowing promiscuous practising homosexuals to raise children.

  23. Stephanie said,

    January 13, 2009 at 1:42 am

    SH-

    “It is also a warning to society as to the possible consequences of allowing promiscuous practising homosexuals to raise children.”

    It is just and right to warn anyone but let that warning be for both the practicing heterosexual and homosexual who chooses to be promiscuous.

  24. January 13, 2009 at 2:26 am

    Yes that’s right nothing good seems to come from a promiscuous lifestyle. Human sexuality is a powerful thing it needs to be used correctly.

  25. Stephanie said,

    January 13, 2009 at 2:45 am

    Liberty Belle-

    “…the studies out there that document the promiscuity of those who actively participate in the gay lifestyle confirms what the images of the “gay pride” parades hint at.”

    So the images of Mardi Gras could confirm the promiscuity of those who actively choose to participate in the heterosexual lifestyle? Probably not a very fair or just statement.

    It is hard for me to give much credit to this study and even an opposing study due to the one simple fact that if there were 500 gay people interviewed for this study, there are another 15,000 gay folks who were not interviewed.

    To sum up a group of people like that is wrong, whether you are heterosexual or homosexual.

    It’s just like those silly commercials……………

    8 out of every 10 men prefer the Ultra Bic Razor.

    Really? How do we really know this? Did we really sit down with all the men of the world to find out the actual truth before making that statement? No, we didn’t. But hey, it suits our purpose so let’s just say it and use it.

    The one study you provided was from 1984, 25 years ago and they interview 156 men. 156? Can you put the shoe on the other foot and think about if someone did a study of 156 heterosexual folks who chose to be promiscuous, do you think it’s right to sum up the entire population of hetersexuals folks based on the choices of 156 people?

  26. Liberty Belle said,

    January 13, 2009 at 3:00 am

    Stephanie, the one study (McWhierter and Mattison, second in my list) was of 156 couples=300+ individuals, but your point is well taken, it is difficult to judge an entire population by a statistical sampling….however the statistical sampling is not uncommon in size for a scientific study. The idea that you have to study every homosexual in the country in order to come up with statistical trends is unrealistic. I agree it would be nice though. I’d like to see more funding put into this area of research, especially before basing public policy on the pretty public image presented by the activists in the homosexual movement.

    As for the age of the study, I don’t think human nature has changed that much in the last millennia or so, much less the last 25 years. That actively practicing homosexuals are risky, promiscuous and far more unhealthy than the general population is well known. There are many many more studies such as these two that I cited, would you like more?

    The most recent AIDS survey is published by WHO and UN AIDS showed that unprotected sex between men continues to account for the largest proportion of new HIV infections (45% in 2005 (that’s 45% of 2.1 million which is 0.945 million new gay men with new infections in 2005) compared with 42% in 2002) (Boulos et al., 2006). An estimated 37% of new HIV infections in 2005 were attributed to unprotected heterosexual intercourse, with a substantial proportion among people born in countries where HIV is endemic (mainly sub-Saharan Africa and the Caribbean).

    Since the best estimates put the homosexual population between 2% and 7%, this also means that even in western Europe with a minority of 29% of new infections coming from at best 7% of the population means that the gay men are far and away the most risky group. In the rest of the world (population about 6.45 billion in 2005) where that 2-7% (451 million in 2005) represents the majority means the chance of infection when engaging in completely random homosexual sex is 0.21% for the gay population as opposed to 0.013% for completely random heterosexual sex (200 times more likely).

    http://www.unaids.org/en/KnowledgeCentre/HIVData/EpiUpdate/EpiUpdArchive/2007/default.asp

  27. Raytmimer said,

    January 13, 2009 at 3:56 am

    Stephanie, I agree that promiscuous relationships of every kind are detrimental to children.

    Liberty Belle, I’m impressed with the digging! I think you bring up a good point about statistical trends showing the need for caution before assuming that lifestyle choices are all equal. It is alarming to me the reckless abandon with which policymakers in this country are willing to set aside time-honored and proven societal models for the glitz of new PC morality.

    If it’s so great, the studies will prove it, let’s do the legwork before subjecting our children to it based on ideological theory that is untested and unproven. The irony is that if it were the spotted owl, or we were discussing instead of our children, the funding would be there for in-depth studies.

  28. Stephanie said,

    January 13, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    LibertyBelle-

    I just find it hard to base my judgments on many studies, regardless of what the studies are, because of the different elements and factors that are left out of them. No, you couldn’t interview every homosexual in the country because many of them still won’t admit that they are gay, they are still living in the closet.

    I do have to agree that there is an extreme problem within the gay community in regards to AIDS and it needs to be addressed a lot more. Perhaps encouraging, coaching and teaching sex education, just like we do with our heterosexual kids and adults would be helpful.

    I find it much easier to think that promiscuous heterosexual people who have contracted herpes, chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, genital herpes or hepatitis B have contracted them because of their promiscuous behavior, not because they are heterosexual.

    But that still wouldn’t be a very fair or accurate statement to make because each each case is so very different.

  29. Liberty Belle said,

    January 13, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    It is true that specific cases are not well addressed by studies, but trends are. If there was data that showed smoking was causing 30% higher death rate than non-smoking, I’d want to know. It wouldn’t necessarily mean I personally would die from smoking, but it would show that there is a difference in choices between people who choose to smoke and people who don’t.

  30. Stephanie said,

    January 13, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    LibertyBelle-

    I understand what you are saying and the entire point I’m attempting to make is there are far too many people who are willing to look at a study and say, “see, the proof is in the pudding, homosexuality is not good, it’s bad.”

    In your argument, are you suggesting that it’s the promiscuity of some homosexuals that people need to be informed about or the general behavior of homosexuals?

    This just isn’t as easy as comparing smoking to no smoking.

  31. January 13, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Stephanie,
    LibertyBelle has posted the results of a couple of studies that show that promiscuity of homosexuals is higher than that of heterosexuals. Rather than claiming they are not representative, it would be more helpful to see some studies that show that heterosexuals were more promiscuous than homosexuals. I challenge you to find such a study.
    The truth of the matter is that such study results do not exist and ALL studies that have asked this question scientifically have returned the same answer. The challenge remains, however, and I promise you that I will give it equal consideration with similar studies and approach it in the most scientific and unbiased manner.

  32. goldnsilver said,

    January 14, 2009 at 12:39 am

    Go stephanie!

    Ahem.

    Anyway, the big question overriding this whole ‘study’ fiasco is:

    Can you honestly judge an entire group of humany’s worth as people and parents based off studies?

    The resounding answer should be HELL NO. If straight people were studied for their incompetence as parents the results would be horrifying. Should we run screaming into the streets and whisk all the kiddies away to live in government schools because a study predicts the imminent threat of possible maltreatment?

  33. rubyeliot said,

    January 14, 2009 at 2:40 am

    Every study ever done, across the board shows that children do better with a mom and a dad.

    All studies on same-gender parenting are inconclusive, or are flawed.

  34. rubyeliot said,

    January 14, 2009 at 2:44 am

    1. William Meezan & Jonathan Rauch, Gay Marriage, Same-Sex Parenting, and America’s Children, 15 FUTURE OF CHILD. 97, 104 (2005)
    “We do not know how the normative child in a same-sex family compares with other children. . . . Those who say the evidence falls short of showing that same-sex parenting is equivalent to opposite- sex parenting (or better, or worse) are . . . right.”

  35. waltzinexile said,

    January 14, 2009 at 9:34 am

    ruby,

    Those quotes are taken entirely out of context. The more comprehensive quote is this:

    “We believe that both sides of that argument are right, at least partially. The evidence provides a great deal of information about the particular families and children studied, and the children now number more than a thousand. They are doing about as well as children normally do. What the evidence does notprovide, because of the methodological difficulties we outlined, is much knowledge about whether those studied are typical or atypical of the general population of children raised by gay and lesbian couples. We do not know how the normative child in a same-sex family compares with other children. To make the same point a little differently, those who say the evidence shows that many same-sex parents do an excellent job of parenting are right. Those who say the evidence falls short of showing that same-sex parenting is equivalent to opposite-sex parenting (or better, or worse) are also right.”

  36. Mel said,

    January 14, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    Regarding the Gay Pride parade vs. Mardi Gras……I can see several differences. #1, the Gay Pride parade is just that…..celebrating Pride in being Gay. Therefore, the behavior displayed at the parade is celebrating homosexuality….showing their identity as homosexuals. Their extreme sexual behavior is celebrated there. If I’m going to have a Women’s Pride parade, I’m going to show everything that it means to be a woman, I’m going to display the best of the best when it comes to womanhood. The Gay Pride parade is just that…..it flagrantly displays what it means to be gay. It is meant to identify and celebrate what it means to be homosexual.
    Mardi Gras, on the other hand, is by definition meant to be a “circus like festival”….where much craziness ensues. It isn’t meant to represent or celebrate an entire population…..it’s simply a crazy celebration where certain people choose to participate in, and let loose, as part of a tradition every year. Their behavior there isn’t necessarily, or meant to represent their lifestyle as a whole. (Although I certainly don’t agree or condone the nudity and craziness…I’m simply differentiating between the two parties/parades.)
    The reason I differentiate is that as an observer, if I were to watch a parade that is labeled the Gay Pride parade, I would assume the behavior taking place there is something that the GLBT community is proud of and wants to display. It’s not the “Although we normally value fidelity, we are just acting out today for the fun of it Parade”….it is supposed to be indicative of the lifestyle that this community values. It is intended to represent the community as a whole, or it wouldn’t be called the Gay Pride parade.

    Therefore, I believe this discussion has two parts:
    1) Certainly promiscuous relationships of any kind are detrimental to children,
    2) Promiscuity is much more common, and even celebrated, within the GLBT community.

  37. beetlebabee said,

    January 14, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    “as an observer, if I were to watch a parade that is labeled the ‘Gay Pride’ parade, I would assume the behavior taking place there is something that the GLBT community is proud of and wants to display.”

    Mel, I think you hit the nail on the head here.

  38. Stephanie said,

    January 14, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Mel-

    “I would assume the behavior taking place there is something that the GLBT community is proud of and wants to display.”

    You shouldn’t assume. Very bad. We could apply that same assumption to many things, yes?

    And what behavior are we talking about exactly?

    “…it is supposed to be indicative of the lifestyle that this community values.”

    No it’s not. Gay Pride events are held to mark the Stonewall riots. It’s a celebration of freedom from even more oppressive days than now for the gay community.

    “….it is supposed to be indicative of the lifestyle that this community values.”

    Again, no it’s not.

    I’m certain we wouldn’t say that about White Power parades.

  39. beetlebabee said,

    January 14, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    If “gay pride” parades are not meant as a representation of core values, then the gay community has a terrible marketing fiasco on it’s hands here, because that’s the message they’re broadcasting every time one of these things is held. “Here we are! Look at us!” and when people look, degeneracy is what we’re shown. What other logical interpretation is there?

  40. Stephanie said,

    January 14, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    BB and Mel-

    In regard to your response to Mel. I’m curious, if the parade was called “Hetero Pride” and there were a ton of people there, some acting promiscuous, would you then look at it and say I would assume the behavior taking place there is something that the hetero community is proud of and wants to display?

  41. rubyeliot said,

    January 14, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    waltz,

    thanks for the whole quote. it doesn’t change my intention using it. No one knows the outcome for same-gender parenting.

    I don’t think we should be experimenting on children.

  42. Raytmimer said,

    January 15, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    On the parades, I’ve never been to a gay pride parade, and I’ve never been to mardi gras, but adding my two cents in, I was driving down my street many times during proposition 8 in California and I saw the two sides of the argument. One side was happy families, the other side was a bunch of oversexed teenagers and some pretty shady looking people. One side was polite, the other side loud and boisterous.

    While I may not be able to comment on parade image vs. parade image, and how applicable that is, in this instance, the circumstances were identical and the contrast was stark.

  43. Raytmimer said,

    January 15, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    I should add, they were lined up on the same street even. Angry, bitter, hostile, and some were just plain mean, yelling at the cars as we drove by. If that is the “happy alternative”, it didn’t look so happy.

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