WOOT Schubert!


As seen on Twitter:  “So, predictions.  Marriage in Maine?  Latest pool seems to say the (pro marriage) side will win.  Can Frank Schubert be stopped?!?”


Much love,

Beetle Blogger



  1. Kennedy Taylor said,

    November 5, 2009 at 10:18 am

    My feelings concering Frank Schubert is that he he is the biggest closeted homosexual on the face of the earth.

  2. beetlebabee said,

    November 6, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    So, because someone does well, he’s homosexual? I don’t get it. That’s just about as valid an argument as saying that everyone who disagrees with your political agenda does so out of hate. Wonky.

  3. LdChino said,

    November 7, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    Frank, yet another divorced defender of traditional marriage.

  4. Harvey Milk said,

    November 7, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    you are disgusting bigots. What are these threats of marriage equality? Nothing. you may have won this battle but as history tells us you will loose the war. You are one the side of slavery, not letting women vote, and segeration. You have lost before, you will loose again.

  5. beetlebabee said,

    November 7, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Chino Blanco, assuming what you claim is true, (I wouldn’t know actually, I don’t go poking around in people’s personal lives looking for flaws to exploit) are you perfect? Do you require everyone around you to be perfect? What a defeatist attitude! You and Personal Failure ought to get together. The truth is you’ve got a good case of the sour grapes. Schubert and his team bested your guys in two campaigns now. I think the quote above is pretty self explanatory, regardless of the politics of personal destruction you’d like to employ. Nice try CB, but no fly.

  6. beetlebabee said,

    November 7, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    HM, is that the best you can do? You can’t play nice in the arena of ideas so you scoop some mud and sling it? Come on. It’s stuff like this that consistently betrays the character and ideals of the opposition. As long as you deceive yourself into thinking these issues are based in simple hate, you’ll never scratch the surface of what everyone else sees and feels on this issue. You can’t address what you don’t recognize.

  7. LdChino said,

    November 7, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Poking around? It’s called reading. And exploiting flaws? I’m making a simple observation, just like Frank did, when he made this observation on his blog:

    “If there is one thing the Constitution of the United States stands for, it’s the principle of equal protection for all. It’s not just the favored who enjoy constitutional rights. Or the privileged. Or the rich. Or the popular. It’s ALL. Yes, even smokers.”

    Smokers like Frank deserve their equal protection, but somehow gays are not part of Frank’s definition of ALL? What a joke.

  8. beetlebabee said,

    November 7, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    There is no litmus test for sexuality in marriage CB. No discrimination, no singling out by orientation. Marriage is has the same rules for all. Equal across the board.

  9. beetlebabee said,

    November 7, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Chino Blanco, you really are the gossip machine tonight aren’t you? Getting in some cheap shots from the convenient cloak of anonymity? That’s gay activist class for you. Are you for civil marriage for polygamous families then?

  10. LdChino said,

    November 7, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Cloak of anonymity? Not sure what you’re referring to there, BB. Are you suggesting I was trying to be sneaky by using my LdChino login? If so, that’s quite the detective work there on your part.

    Re cheap shots, I’ve actually been a paragon of restraint this time around.

    By the way, I hope you really don’t think this is sour grapes. I’m of course disappointed with the result, but the numbers were encouraging.

    Demographically, Maine is the oldest of the fifty states. 60% of Maine’s registered voters cast ballots, and 47% of those voted for equality. That’s 270,000 Mainers who didn’t buy Frank’s tired but admittedly effective lies.

  11. beetlebabee said,

    November 8, 2009 at 7:14 am

    Wow Chino. That’s some hard cranking on the spin machine. In an atmosphere where Schubert’s guys were outmanned, outspent and set in an extremely liberal state…. you’re calling this a WIN for same-sex marriage? LOL. They passed tax increases in the middle of a downturn, medical marijuana and all the other wacky liberal ideas without even blinking, yet soundly rejected SSM after ALL that money and effort was put into the campaign. Spin it as a win for same-sex marriage if you can and may all your “wins” be as electorally dismal.

  12. JustSayin' said,

    November 8, 2009 at 7:29 am

    That reminds me of Tevye’s comment on riches. “May the good lord smite me with it, ……..and may I never recover!”

  13. mlabot said,

    November 8, 2009 at 8:05 am

    How important was Maine’s vote? Consider these facts:

    • National gay marriage groups saw Maine as their opportunity to, in their words, “break” the growing national movement to protect marriage. Winning at the ballot box would have shifted the momentum in their direction after our victory in Proposition 8. They made Maine their rallying cry, and truly believed that they were going to win.

    • Maine gay marriage groups spent four years building a sophisticated grassroots organization unlike anything that we have seen. In a state with a population of only 1.3 million, No on 1 had 8,000 (yes 8,000!) volunteers in the field knocking on tens of thousands of doors and making hundreds of thousands of phone calls.

    • Maine is a deep blue New England state. At the same time Maine voters rejected same-sex marriage, they approved extending the legalization of marijuana by a 59%-41% margin, and rejected a tax-limiting scheme 60% to 40%.

    • We were grossly outspent by nearly two to one.

  14. mlabot said,

    November 8, 2009 at 8:05 am

    Just thought I’d throw that in.

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